Key, McCullum, Noosa and the future

Azeem and Matt have different takes on the interviews given by Brendon McCullum and Rob Key in the aftermath of England's Ashes demolition. They then clash on England's Noosa trip - did England enjoy themselves too much or do these things only get highlighted when you are losing? Either way, is it now 2 Test matches for the England leadership group to show they can take the team forward and avoid the chop?

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices