On a jam-packed edition of the #RefsPodcast:

Preds' McCarron fined for slashing
OHL's Levac gets six games for slewfoot
Isles' Duclair's goaltender interference on Preds' Saros
No call on Caps' Wilson for steamrolling Canes' Stankoven
Another goalie fight! Swayman vs. Vasilevskiy
OT penalty cancels out game-winner for Bruins' Pastrnak
Sens' Giroux takes out Pens' Silovs, but the goal stands
Canucks' Kane stirring things up
Flames' Cooley gets saved by the whistle
Penalty minutes pile up in the latest Battle of Florida between the Tampa Bay Lightning and the Florida Panthers

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The Scouting The Refs Podcast is a weekly look at the world of officiating and player safety within the National Hockey League, AHL, ECHL, and other leagues around the world. We'll break down the calls and the rules behind them to help understand why a penalty or suspension was - or wasn't - handed out.

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